Bill ; glad everything is going well in england>>>if they don,t meet with you at the bethel you should use a BULLHORN. TO CALL THEM OUT. that should get media when the wt refuses to talk to you. we should usde BULLHORNS AT ALL SILENTLAMB MARCHES. it works great for al sharpton. i looking foward to brooklyn ,when none of the gb will talk to you and you call them out with the BULLHORN.... THAT WILL WAKE UP ALL IN THE BETHEL.... SOUNDS EFFECTIVE!!!! THINK ABOUT IT.... JOHN IN THE BRONX
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silentlambs U K
by silentlambs ingreetings from the uk!
we were invited to a conference to speak on sl issues and had a very productive weekend.
it appears many here are very aware of the abuse issue and want to get involved.
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A complex question who of you knows the answer?
by MARTINLEYSHON inif baptism washes away your sins, as taught by jws, what prevents a disfellowshiped person who has moved to a new area and is not known in that area in attending meetings as an interested person and getting baptised within 6 months.. has anyone ever done that?
if so can the person be disfellowshipped a second time?
what would be his status.
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johnny cip
that was a stupid question???you would really have to be stupid. to want to go back.after the wt put you through the wringer!!!! john
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Do JW's teach anything about their history?
by Double Edge ineveryone here seems to know a lot about jw history, but when i ask my friend (who was a convert) they don't seem to know too much.
do they teach a church history class on sundays or during the week?
(just curious...seems funny that my friend would convert from catholicism without knowing too much of the history)
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johnny cip
no the wt does not teach their true history . they will give you a line here and a line there ...read this awake 3-8-2001 it says beware of people who write their own history books.. this awake shows that the wt thinks the jw,s are fools.for believing what they say about their own history... the wt always prints stuff that mock the stupidy fof the jw's . i think the writing dept gets a laugh out how stupid jw's are .....the wt always says look at every one else but never at us.....john
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johnny cip
it's getting hot bill is making the wt leave a paper trail. and it smells like a paper trail lined with shit !!!!!!! only true jackasses like the wt would keep puting their foot in their mouths.. and think it's gods work ..even a snowball can grow in hell if jesus is throwing it...john
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Planting seeds of doubts- What works for you?
by Cappuccino OC ini have found differences in the way to plant seeds of doubt: here are my experiences.
when speaking to jw's i found that the "un" & the child abuse cases where the jw pedophiles have been convicted and in prison works wonderful.. when speaking with non-jw's i found that speaking to them about jw pedopiles who go door to door makes them totally irate.. i've also asked them to do non-biased research on topics they are not sure.
i've told them if you are in the "trvth" you have nothing to worry about the information that you will find.. let's share what has worked for you when plating seeds of doubt?.
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johnny cip
i go straight for new wt articles. i like the jw history ones . were the wt calls books like millions now living will never die, the time is at hand,harp of god,face the facts,etc. and the 1919 1922 conventions bible truth . then i ask if these books were inspired by god many will say yes. i ask if they ever read these books. they mostly say yes that was one of the best books i ever read.???now that i set them up like bowling pins....it's time for the ball!!!!!keep in mind i take notes ,so when they try to lie there way out ..i point to their past comments !!!!!!!!now it,s time for the quiz on these books.....after a couple of minutes .i got them in lie 1 they have no idea what was in them. then i stop playing stupid and give them the false prophecies in these books . i get the jw,s to lie more.. and they know i got them to lie to protect the wt .i always say keep a few newer wt around find tthe lies in them.. and use it to make the jw's foam at the mouth when they lie for the wt.....happy hunting john
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Planting seeds of doubts- What works for you?
by Cappuccino OC ini have found differences in the way to plant seeds of doubt: here are my experiences.
when speaking to jw's i found that the "un" & the child abuse cases where the jw pedophiles have been convicted and in prison works wonderful.. when speaking with non-jw's i found that speaking to them about jw pedopiles who go door to door makes them totally irate.. i've also asked them to do non-biased research on topics they are not sure.
i've told them if you are in the "trvth" you have nothing to worry about the information that you will find.. let's share what has worked for you when plating seeds of doubt?.
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The GB vs SilentLambs Marchers In September
by SYN inlater on this month there will be an amazing event happening right in front of brooklyn's bethel, the headquarters of the book publishing company formerly known as a religion, the watchtower bible & tract society.
dozens, if not hundreds, of silentlambs and other interested and angry parties will be participating in this march.
the official spin on the issue straight from the top) :victims and their parents are free to go to the police.victims and their parents will not be sanctioned for going to the police.reports of molestions will be reported in states where it is required!there are fewer molestation cases on record than bill bowen and barb anderson claim.the "child protection policy" of the watchtower is "bible based (tm)", i.e.
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johnny cip
hey grits ; you are really on fire , iread your other posts about the orlando press confrence. don,t be worried about the size or the media. we got the snowball effect rolling. i,m still blasting them in new york. one by one .rome wasn,t built in a day. don,t they have 69 or $99 dollar fares to n.y. i have a small place , but you are welcome to stay with me free. i,ll even pick you up at the airport thats the kind of aspostate i,m am... john in the bronx. [email protected]
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Marilyn Zweifel, from the why-1914 helpline
by coffee_black ini just got an email about marilyn z. she will be having bypass surgery this morning at 11:45 (ct)she thought she was going in for angioplasty, but they discovered that she has 4 arteries with 90% blockage.
i'll keep everyone posted.
marilyn has helped many of us.... cb
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johnny cip
hi; i spoke to marilyn last year. when i called she said she was just going out the door..well we talked for more than a hour..what a caring lady!! i think the lord will be with her today...john
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johnny cip
i don,t have any lambs yet. but i will be at the march..anyone here from the bronx or lower westchester. john
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9-1-02 wt lie
by johnny cip inon page 25 9-1-2002 wt para 1 "in the summer of 1929, when i was 2 years old, something wonderful happened to my fatrher, matthew allen.
he optained the booklet millions now living will never die!
----------- dad exclaimed this is the greatest thing i ever read!
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on page 25 9-1-2002 wt para 1 "in the summer of 1929, when i was 2 years old, something wonderful happened to my fatrher, matthew allen. he optained the booklet millions now living will never die! ----------- dad exclaimed this is the greatest thing i ever read!""" now let me ask how can you read a book IN 1929 THAT SAID THE WORLD WAS TO END IN 1925 . 4 YEARS AFTER THE WORLD DIDN,T END IN 1925 AND SAY IT,S THE GREATEST THING I EVER READ ...EITHER THE WRITERS OF THIS DRIVEL ARE TRYING TO SHOW THE JWS THAT THEIR BEING LIED TOO , OR THE WT IS HAVING A BIG LAUGH ON HOW BLIND JWS ARE TO BELIEVE THIS LIE!!!!!!!!!!! WAS IT NOT P.T.BARNUM WHO SAID THERE IS A SUCKER BORN EVERY MINUTE I ALREADY QUESTIONED A FEW JWS ON THIS . THEY SAID I DON,T UNDER STAND WHAT I WAS READING THEY GOT NEW LIGHT ,AND I NEED A BOOK I MEAN A BIBLE STUDY!!!!!P.T BARMUN IS RIGHT A SUCKER IS BORN EVER MINUTE!!!!!!!!JOHN